https://open.spotify.com/episode/3fMorDEYl8YUJgfNIVliLV?si=F45AMV4LRQmsKovoZ_pHwQ&dl_branch=1

This is Rogan at his best. He has enough knowledge to ask well-directed questions and not too much so he is curious.

I read the coffee part of the book and it’s good. Reviewed here